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Handling of File types

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:38 pm
by hayama
What happened to the 'File types' option? XnView supports so many formats that I often limit it to just the more common ones. It makes the list in Save As a lot more manageable.

XnView 1.80 <x>

Re: File types

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 9:31 am
by xnview
hayama wrote:What happened to the 'File types' option? XnView supports so many formats that I often limit it to just the more common ones. It makes the list in Save As a lot more manageable.
I have remove it, but now many users ask for it :-(
Is it really needed?

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 9:39 am
by scratch
it makes it easier to choose the format you want to save as.

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 11:59 am
by xnview
scratch wrote:it makes it easier to choose the format you want to save as.
Yes, right. Anyone agree?

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 1:54 pm
by Hacker
I also don't see any reason to remove it. I agree with hayama and scratch.

Roman

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 11:56 pm
by Dreamer
OK, I suggest to add them as submenu of "Associations" - to prevent confusion, user must first click to Associations, so he will see what is what...

e.g.:

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[+] Associations
    |
    +--File Types

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 1:48 am
by marsh
Does everyone notice that 'View as name' can associate by file type?

Would it help to rename 'View as name' to 'Sort by file type'?
Would it help to rename 'View as extension' to 'Sort by extension'?
I never used or understood the removed menu. Was it not redundant?

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 8:51 am
by hayama
Dreamer wrote:OK, I suggest to add them as submenu of "Associations"
The two could even be merged together.

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File types     Associate
[] bmp            []
[] gif            []
[] jpg            []

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 11:38 am
by helmut
In options dialog, General > Startup there's a setting "Use all formats available". This (more or less) hidden option determines which formats will be available in the drop down lists of the Open & Save dialog.

Determining the formats at startup needed quite some time, this is basically the reason why Pierre has changed this.

Let's look at the way it is now (in 1.80 RC1-3):
With Standard formats active (default), there is about 120 formats listed in the drop down list. This is far too much. Basically I need about four formats, so I have to search the list all the time. No good for most users.

Now image that I need 1 special format which is not amongst the standard formats. I have to activate "Use all formats available" and have too choose the formats in the list with about 300-400 entries. Again: No good.

I think another solution must be found here. The way it is now is too restrictive. We can discuss the current situation in this thread.

Please also have a look at the discussion and suggestions in topic 'Wishlist: simplified file associations'.

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 4:24 pm
by Dreamer
helmut wrote:Let's look at the way it is now (in 1.80 RC1-3): ... No good for most users.

Now image that I need 1 special format which is not amongst the standard formats. I have to activate "Use all formats available" and have too choose the formats in the list with about 300-400 entries. Again: No good.

I think another solution must be found here.
I fully agree, so I suggest:

1. Use the most used formats

2. Use the most used formats and these:

[ *.raw;*.img ] - (with ability to manually add any extension(s) here)

3. Use all formats available


Maybe that second option could be also in Associations.

Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 7:44 am
by xnview
helmut wrote:Let's look at the way it is now (in 1.80 RC1-3):
With Standard formats active (default), there is about 120 formats listed in the drop down list. This is far too much. Basically I need about four formats, so I have to search the list all the time. No good for most users.

Now image that I need 1 special format which is not amongst the standard formats. I have to activate "Use all formats available" and have too choose the formats in the list with about 300-400 entries. Again: No good.
Right :-(
So the problem is only to be able to configure file type list for save dialog. Right?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 8:01 am
by scratch
yup. i like hayama's suggestion.

Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 10:05 am
by xnview
scratch wrote:yup. i like hayama's suggestion.
I can't make associations & file type for saving in the same dialog.

Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 1:06 pm
by Dreamer
scratch,
xnview wrote:
scratch wrote:yup. i like hayama's suggestion.
I can't make associations & file type for saving in the same dialog.
I've already suggested that in other (old) topic, but it's not possible.

Check my "blue" idea above...

Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 1:32 pm
by ckv
xnview wrote:I have remove it, but now many users ask for it :-(
Is it really needed?
I don't use it... but the idea is good.
Dreamer wrote: 1. Use the most used formats

2. Use the most used formats and these:

[ *.raw;*.img ] - (with ability to manually add any extension(s) here)

3. Use all formats available
So I prefer this idea.