0.50 win-x86: Camera Date-text should get reinterpreted

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0.50 win-x86: Camera Date-text should get reinterpreted

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Hi,

The current date format of an exif picture shown in XnViewMP 0.50 "Properties":

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I would like if this date format can be natively reinterpreted by XnViewMP especially coming from my perspective as a UK (Britain) software user as we put our 'day' before the 'month' in date shorthand :mrgreen:

example;
06/24/2012 - North American
[same date]
24/06/2012 - UK & Europe

But apologies to forget the obvious in that XnViewMP for me does not even use slashes but instead uses colons, so I would much prefer a bracketed display if other users don't mind.

Currently XnViewMP displays exif camera picture taken date as: {Year}:{Month}:{Day}

Perhaps all of this should be customizable somehow either in the Settings or as an INI Tweak (see topic).

Another suggestion is the option to see the actual month written alphabetically like Windows Explorer does, for example; 24 June 2012
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Re: 0.50 win-x86: Camera Date-text should get reinterpreted

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Ok, changed in EXIF but not in properties
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Re: 0.50 win-x86: Camera Date-text should get reinterpreted

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Hi, I'm new to this forum but using XnView for long.

Regarding the date format issue: I feel that the EXIF format which is written to the image file is not intended for the human reader, but should be machine interpretable.
There is an international standard about how to write the date and time: ISO 8601.
Here, it is clearly recommended that the format shall be YYYY-MM-DD or simply YYYYMMDD. I just checked against the format used on my Android camera; it is YYYY-MM-DD.
The advantage is that the image files will sort neatly in the correct timely order, a fact which is not given with any 'natural' date and time format, neither Eurpean, nor British nor U.S.

My vote: YYYY-MM-DD

Off-Topic: Thanks Pierre!

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Re: 0.50 win-x86: Camera Date-text should get reinterpreted

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wolke wrote: Regarding the date format issue: I feel that the EXIF format which is written to the image file is not intended for the human reader, but should be machine interpretable.
Yes exactly!
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Re: 0.50 win-x86: Camera Date-text should get reinterpreted

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Currently in XnViewMP 0.51 the date interpreation has imporved a bit to use forward slashes "/"

So now for further remaining improvements:

1.) the header named 'Date' should be renamed to 'Date taken'

2.) And the 'Month' should be as alphabet writing and non numerical. For example today's date would show as: 02-July-2012 {time}
The written 'Month' as a text and not numerical can be achieved by fetching this from Windows in any user's local language translation :)

example.
July = 'Juli' in German Windows translation
November = 'Novembre' in French Windows translation
March = 'Marsz' in Polish Windows translation
etc etc 8)
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Re: 0.50 win-x86: Camera Date-text should get reinterpreted

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Thank you Pierre for using the EXIF header name "Date taken" in XnViewMP 0.53, more clearer now :) Thanks :D
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Re: 0.50 win-x86: Camera Date-text should get reinterpreted

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Ok, I am now running XnViewMP 0.56

My last request on this topic is to add a hyphen "-" with spacing in between the Date & Time codes of the 'Date taken' field.

(like this, see below)
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Re: 0.50 win-x86: Camera Date-text should get reinterpreted

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budz45 wrote:Ok, I am now running XnViewMP 0.56

My last request on this topic is to add a hyphen "-" with spacing in between the Date & Time codes of the 'Date taken' field.
Pierre, Thank you for adding this little visual improvement XnViewMP 0.60 :)
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