How to RELIABLY embed keywords to jpg images?

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marwro
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How to RELIABLY embed keywords to jpg images?

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Hi there Everybody,

being in urgent need for clear, step by step, for dummies :-) instructions how to embed IPTC keywords to a jpg image. In the same way like Photo Mechanic or Fotostation do.

When I test uploaded my images to various photo agencies, the keywords got lost. All other IPTC fileds - like Caption, Copyright, Credit, Byline, etc - were there, but keywords went missing.


My workflow: I start off with tiff images, then batch convert them to jpgs, then fill in all the IPTC fields, then FTP upload them.

Maybe I should fill in the Iptc fields BEFORE the converting, or it doesn't matter, which I do first?

Thanks for any help - I need to be 100% sure the keywords are there & embedded, otherwise I cannot use this otherwise excellent piece of software professionally, as my clients rely only on keywords when doing an image search.
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Re: How to RELIABLY embed keywords to jpg images?

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I don't know how work Photo Mechanic or Fotostation. Do you see the IPTC keywords of the jpeg in xnView?
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Re: How to RELIABLY embed keywords to jpg images?

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That's exactly the problem: I see the keywords locally on my M1 Mac, but my agency says there are none.

Pls. excuse me for mentioning some other software :-) but I am sure you know what I mean. Both this progs are expensive and miss some features XnviewMP offers, but on the other hand apparently the keywording works well.

Aside form the price I like XnView better, but I seems for me that XnViewMP has problem with assigning & embedding keywords to jpg files - or maybe I misunderstand something?

That's why a detailed tutorial, what options to mark in the preferences and the order working of steps, would be helpful.
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Re: How to RELIABLY embed keywords to jpg images?

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Do you see IPTC keywords in output jpeg (in XnViewMP)?
'Settings>Metadata - Export category to XMP/IPTC' must be enabled
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Re: How to RELIABLY embed keywords to jpg images?

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Pierre, it is enabled and I can see it. Nevertheless my agency, for whatever reason, cannot.

In the "old days", we used to caption our jpg first and the convert the captioned jpg with irfan view. It somehow put everything in place, I mean the meta data, so tan that all other software could read it
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Re: How to RELIABLY embed keywords to jpg images?

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marwro wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:07 pm Pierre, it is enabled and I can see it. Nevertheless my agency, for whatever reason, cannot.
do you have a file that work in your agency? could you make a screenshot of properties for this file and the one that doesn't work?
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Re: How to RELIABLY embed keywords to jpg images?

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may be I could zip two images, one which is correct and one which supposedly not working, and upload them somewhere, only for You to checking?

many thanks in advance!
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Re: How to RELIABLY embed keywords to jpg images?

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p.s. I am asking because I don't know which properties do you mean, under Image/Properties there are a few properties options like IPTC, XMP, Exif ?
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Re: How to RELIABLY embed keywords to jpg images?

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marwro wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:27 pm may be I could zip two images, one which is correct and one which supposedly not working, and upload them somewhere, only for You to checking?
yes, send me it by mail
Pierre.