General topic for help with translation

Translation of On-Screen texts of XnView MP and XnConvert

Moderators: XnTriq, helmut, xnview

User avatar
helmut
Posts: 8705
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Re: General topic for help with translation

Post by helmut »

XnView 0.38:

There is a new string "Draw as tiled". Where in the dialogs can it be found?
User avatar
xnview
Author of XnView
Posts: 44936
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:31 am
Location: France

Re: General topic for help with translation

Post by xnview »

helmut wrote:XnView 0.38:
There is a new string "Draw as tiled". Where in the dialogs can it be found?
In popup menu of Preview
Pierre.
StephanP
Posts: 18
Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:50 am
Location: Amsterdam

Re: General topic for help with translation

Post by StephanP »

I recently picked up the Dutch translation and I have a question on a matter of phrasing.

The English phrase "Open door" can be translated into Dutch/German like "Deur openen"/"Tür öffnen" or "Open de deur"/"Öffne die Tür".
The first translation where the verb is placed at the end, provides a description of an action.
The second translation stays more close to the English original, but comes across as a command.
In English, an action or a command would be written in the same way, the tone of the speaker would have to make the difference.

The action could be attributed to one self or any other entity prepared to perform.
The command is always pointed outwards to the person or entity whom we order to perform.
The question for the translator being: what do I want to convey: action or command?

Do we have a guideline for this? Stay close to the original English phrasing and in doing so come across as being commanding, or do we give preference to the more natural description of an action to be performed (by the user or the computer, if you like)?
How do other translators look at this for their respective languages?

I hope I've made my dilemma clear.
Stephan
User avatar
Peter2
XnThusiast
Posts: 1350
Joined: Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:07 pm
Location: CH

Re: General topic for help with translation

Post by Peter2 »

Hi Stephan

I contributed to translation of another software and had the same problem. You could take a look here:
http://www.microsoft.com/Language/de-de ... uides.aspx

(The link is in German, but you will find other languages too). I don't know if Microsoft is the standard for XnView too, but I think "yes" ..

Peter
XnViewMP <Current version> German, XnConvert <Current version>, Win 10
StephanP
Posts: 18
Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:50 am
Location: Amsterdam

Re: General topic for help with translation

Post by StephanP »

Hallo Peter,
Thanks for this link.
Substantial document, great read, very useful.
Stephan
User avatar
helmut
Posts: 8705
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Re: General topic for help with translation

Post by helmut »

Peter2 wrote:(The link is in German, but you will find other languages too). I don't know if Microsoft is the standard for XnView too, but I think "yes" ..
Thanks for this helpful link, Peter. And yes, Microsoft "language" is supposed to be the standard for XnView translations.
tmksStyle
Posts: 24
Joined: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:16 am

Re: General topic for help with translation

Post by tmksStyle »

I'm Japanese translator.
How can I see 'DlgConvertSymetry' on the XnViewMP 0.56?
I can't translate the term 'Sides' appropriately.:(
User avatar
xnview
Author of XnView
Posts: 44936
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:31 am
Location: France

Re: General topic for help with translation

Post by xnview »

In batch convert, add action "Symmetry".
Pierre.
tmksStyle
Posts: 24
Joined: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:16 am

Re: General topic for help with translation

Post by tmksStyle »

xnview wrote:In batch convert, add action symety
I found it. :D
It works only in the "Kaleidoscope" method.
User avatar
helmut
Posts: 8705
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Re: General topic for help with translation

Post by helmut »

What do the following functions do:
[ ] Clean files (Database)

Question: What's the difference between "180° left" and "180° right" rotation?
User avatar
xnview
Author of XnView
Posts: 44936
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:31 am
Location: France

Re: General topic for help with translation

Post by xnview »

helmut wrote:What do the following functions do:
[ ] Clean files (Database)
Remove untagged files from database
Question: What's the difference between "180° left" and "180° right" rotation?
Where do you have that?
Pierre.
User avatar
helmut
Posts: 8705
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Re: General topic for help with translation

Post by helmut »

xnview wrote:
helmut wrote:What do the following functions do:
[ ] Clean files (Database)
Remove untagged files from database
Hmm, does this mean that files without any info in the database will be removed from database? I'm still not clear what this means. The same applies for "Clean thumbnails". I have the impression that this is overcomplicated, see topic 0.61: Database optimization: Unclear and too complicated.
xnview wrote:
helmut wrote:Question: What's the difference between "180° left" and "180° right" rotation?
Where do you have that?
In source text in "DlgConvertRotate" context.
User avatar
helmut
Posts: 8705
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Re: General topic for help with translation

Post by helmut »

XnView 0.90:
Could someone please explain in simple words what the new setting "Pan with zoom" does?
User avatar
xnview
Author of XnView
Posts: 44936
Joined: Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:31 am
Location: France

Re: General topic for help with translation

Post by xnview »

helmut wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:32 pm XnView 0.90:
Could someone please explain in simple words what the new setting "Pan with zoom" does?
when you click on a picture zoomed, this setting allow to zoom at 100% the picture and you can move it (it was by default in previous version)
Pierre.
User avatar
helmut
Posts: 8705
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Re: General topic for help with translation

Post by helmut »

I'm about translating XnView 0.94 beta 1 to German and am trying to find good translations.

"Fix alpha channel"
Setting "Fix alpha channel" can be found in Settings > Interface > Formats, Tab Read > PDS.
What does this setting do? Is "Fix" in the meaning of "repair" or "fix" in the meaning of "not changeable" (would rather be "fixed", then)?

"'Hot folders' process files"
Setting "'Hot folders' process files" is located in "Batch convert" dialog on "Settings" tab.
What does this setting do?

"...Text size.."
Location: Create > Banner, help text.
In the help text the term "Text size" is used. Is "Text size" the size you set in percent in the dialog?