** English - English

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Re: ** English - English

Post by vertigo » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:14 pm

helmut wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:42 pm
While updating German translation to XnView 0.94 beta 1 I found some issues in the English translation. Would be cool if some native speakers would double-check.

Menu Image:
Negative -->
Negative (Invert)
Just "Negative" is fine, since that's the commonly used term for this (making an image look like a film negative), however adding invert is fine.
helmut wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:42 pm
Menu Image:
Desaturate -->
Desaturate (Black&White)
I don't seem to have this option (though I'd suggest a space before & after the ampersand, i.e. Black & White)...
helmut wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:42 pm
Dialog Unsharp Mask:
Amount -->
Intensity (just like in most other effects/filters). Alternatively it could say "Value" in all effects/filters.
...or this one.
helmut wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:42 pm
Message:
An error occurs during process, please check if files are not read-only!
-->
An error occured during processing. Please make sure that files are not read-only!
"An error occurred during processing." I'd also suggest "Please verify files..." instead -- just sounds better (and the word "that" is unnecessary and basically filler).
helmut wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:42 pm
Text:
Open lastest opened tab
-->
Open latest opened tab (Question: Is a tab opened or an image opened?)
Yes, though without knowing where this is or what it does, it's hard to say if that's the best way to say it. For example, it might be better to say "Reopen latest opened tab" or "Reopen latest closed tab" or "Reopen latest active tab" etc.

While poking around looking for these, I also saw Image > Adjust > Conbright/Gammasat. Doing a search for these terms, the only relevant results I see are related to XnView, so I'm not sure if they're a term specific to this program or what, but my initial thoughts were that they mean, and therefore should say, "Brightness/Gamma."

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Re: ** English - English

Post by cday » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:53 pm

helmut wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:42 pm
While updating German translation to XnView 0.94 beta 1 I found some issues in the English translation. Would be cool if some native speakers would double-check.

Menu Image:
Negative -->
Negative (Invert)

Menu Image:
Desaturate -->
Desaturate (Black&White)
Both look good...

Dialog Unsharp Mask:
Amount -->
Intensity (just like in most other effects/filters). Alternatively it could say "Value" in all effects/filters.
I'm not familiar with the unsharp mask yet, but a quick search seems to show that 'Amount' is indeed the usual term, and it is used in Photoshop:

Wikipedia - Unsharp masking


Message:
An error occurs during process, please check if files are not read-only!
-->
An error occured during processing. Please make sure that files are not read-only!
Might the negative in both the above be avoided, maybe:

'An error occurred during process, check if files are read-only!'

Text:
Open lastest opened tab
-->
Open latest opened tab (Question: Is a tab opened or an image opened?)
Not sure of the context... Not 'Reopen last closed tab'??

Several image processing dialogs, e.g. Image > Offset..:
Apply to original -->
Apply to image (just like in most dialogs)
Seems better, the change is applied to the opened image rather than the original file, although unlikely to cause confusion?

Any other native English speakers, or non-native speakers, have useful input?

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Re: ** English - English

Post by helmut » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:51 pm

@cday, @vertigo: Thank you for your super-fast replies. I even didn't have the chance to complete my post... ;)

• Commands "Negative" and "Desaturate" have been enhanced to "Negative (Invert)" and "Desaturate (Black&White)" to make these commands a bit clearer and easier to be found.

• "Open latest opened tab" is used in "Edit IPTC/XMP" dialog. (I had to search a bit myself.)

Another one:
The 'CPU Core' settings is disabled, can't be used with 'Ask' mode, or multipage, PDF files.
-->
The 'CPU Core' settings is disabled, can't be used with 'Ask' mode, or multipage PDF files. (Note: Wrong punctuation. But I'm just guessing, here, because I don't know the context at all.)

Dialog "Create banner"
"Overwrite original file when saving"
-->
"Overwrite original file(s) when saving" (Note: Plural because this decission will apply for one or multiple files depending on your selection.)

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Re: ** English - English

Post by vertigo » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:24 pm

Still not seeing the "Open latest opened tab" one. Not sure why some of these don't appear to be in my version.

As for "The 'CPU Core' settings is disabled, can't be used with 'Ask' mode, or multipage PDF files," it should either be "settings are" or "setting is" and both commas should go away, with the first replaced with "and." So it should read:

The 'CPU Core' settings are (or setting is) disabled and can't be used with 'Ask' mode or multipage PDF files.

Again, and as with you, I'm just guessing since I don't know the context. It might be that it should read "Can't be used with 'Ask' mode or multipage PDF files due to the 'CPU Core' setting being disabled" or similar.

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Re: ** English - English

Post by helmut » Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:32 pm

vertigo wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:24 pm
Still not seeing the "Open latest opened tab" one. Not sure why some of these don't appear to be in my version.
Do you use 0.94 beta 1? My "location" wasn't precise. It's in "Edit IPTC/XMP" dialog in "Option" tab.
vertigo wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:24 pm
... Again, and as with you, I'm just guessing since I don't know the context. ...
A lot of guessing these days. :|

EDIT: I think I understand the text, now. It's an information message and it should say something like:
"The 'Use CPU Cores' setting was disabled. This setting can't be used with 'Ask' mode or multipage PDF files."
or
"The 'Use CPU Cores' setting was disabled. This setting can't be combined with 'Ask' mode or multipage PDF files."
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Re: ** English - English

Post by vertigo » Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:17 am

0.93.1. Checked for updates earlier when I couldn't find them, guess I have it set to ignore betas.

Another possibility would be "...disabled due to incompatibility with 'Ask' mode and multipage PDF files" or "...disabled since it can't be used with..." or "The 'Use CPU Cores' setting is incompatible with...and has been disabled." Lots of different ways to say it.

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Re: ** English - English

Post by cday » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:21 am

vertigo wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:17 am
0.93.1. Checked for updates earlier when I couldn't find them, guess I have it set to ignore betas.
The betas can be downloaded from the (relatively new) Beta Testing section of the forum.

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Re: ** English - English

Post by xnview » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:00 am

cday wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:53 pm
Menu Image:
Negative -->
Negative (Invert)

Menu Image:
Desaturate -->
Desaturate (Black&White)

Dialog Unsharp Mask:
Amount -->
Intensity (just like in most other effects/filters). Alternatively it could say "Value" in all effects/filters.
It's the common terms, used in photoshop too
Pierre.

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Re: ** English - English

Post by XnTriq » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:15 am

helmut wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:42 pm
Menu Image:
Negative -->
Negative (Invert)
I support this request.

helmut wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:42 pm
Menu Image:
Desaturate -->
Desaturate (Black&White)
As of now (v0.93.1), there are two different ways for converting an image to 256 shades of gray in XnView:
  1. ImageChange color depth…Greyscale
  2. ImageAdjustEnhance colors…Saturation
@Pierre: Is MP's new Desaturate command the equivalent of moving the slider for Saturation to 0 :?:

helmut wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:42 pm
Dialog Unsharp Mask:
Amount -->
Intensity (just like in most other effects/filters). Alternatively it could say "Value" in all effects/filters.
With the exception of Paint Shop Pro (Radius/Strength/Clipping vs. Radius/Amount/Threshold) all editors (including Photoshop and GIMP) and plug-in filters I've come across use the term Amount. At least in my understanding, increasing/decreasing the values for radius and threshold also has an effect on the (perceived) intensity/strength.

Cambridge in Colour:
My suggestions for the dialog of the new Offset feature:
  • Fill empty area
  • Repeat edges pixels

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Re: ** English - English

Post by helmut » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:52 pm

Another suggestion:

Settings → Browser → Thumbnails → Info icons:
"Has category" --> Category (Note: It says just "GPS", "EXIF", and so on. So it should say just "Category".)

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