Menu items "<Rating> (Move to next image)": Shortcuts, icons

Ideas for improvements and requests for new features in XnView MP

Moderators: XnTriq, xnview

Post Reply
User avatar
helmut
Posts: 8172
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Menu items "<Rating> (Move to next image)": Shortcuts, icons

Post by helmut » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:34 pm

<Moderator's note: Originally this was a bug report but it turned out to be a suggestion.>
___

Subject: 0.84: Useless menu items "<Rating> (Move to next image)"

XnView: MP 0.84
OS: Windows 10 - 64bit

In XnView browser there are menu items in View » Rating & Colour labels for both rating and navigating to the next image. I suspect these menu items are intended to support a fast workflow but you cannot have a fast workflow when using a sub menu. It might be good to have these commands to assign shortcuts if really needed, but in a sub-menu they are useless and just clutter the menu.

Effect: Cluttered user interface

To reproduce:
1. Open XnView browser
2. Select View » Rating & Colour labels
Actual behaviour (bug): You will see the menu with MANY menu items for rating and assigning colour labels.

Expected behaviour: Clean submenu with menu items that make sense.

Note: This is not a real bug but I consider a cluttered user interface also as a bug.

vertigo
Posts: 118
Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:49 pm

Re: 0.84: Useless menu items "<Rating> (Move to next image)"

Post by vertigo » Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:38 am

These are available for placing directly on the toolbar, so a user could just line them up on the toolbar and click to rate an image and move on to the next, click to rate and move on, and so forth. I imagine they're not intended to be used from the submenu, but it either would cause frustration/confusion for people to see them as options for the toolbar and yet not be able to find them elsewhere or it could be that the items for the toolbar have to be in a menu somewhere, or doing so could have just made it easier to code.

User avatar
m.Th.
XnThusiast
Posts: 1560
Joined: Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:31 am
Contact:

Re: 0.84: Useless menu items "<Rating> (Move to next image)"

Post by m.Th. » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:54 am

vertigo wrote:These are available for placing directly on the toolbar, so a user could just line them up on the toolbar and click to rate an image and move on to the next, click to rate and move on, and so forth. I imagine they're not intended to be used from the submenu, but it either would cause frustration/confusion for people to see them as options for the toolbar and yet not be able to find them elsewhere or it could be that the items for the toolbar have to be in a menu somewhere, or doing so could have just made it easier to code.
This.

Also, we need to know about their existence and assign some shortcuts which will show up in menu.

They are present in Lr and in other DAMs. It would be great if they will work in viewer also.
m. Th.

The Ascetic Experience - The best photos and texts from Holy Mountain (Athos)

- Dark Themed XnViewMP 0.90 64bit & XnView 2.00 x64 on Win7 x64 -

User avatar
helmut
Posts: 8172
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Re: 0.84: Useless menu items "<Rating> (Move to next image)"

Post by helmut » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:21 pm

Thank you for your comments, vertigo and m.Th..

@m.Th.: Do these menu items in Lr or DAMs have shortcuts assigned by default? If yes, THEN it does make sense to list them in the menu because the user sees the function, can use it and even learns how apply this function quickly using the shortcut. (The menu documents the functions and shortcuts available).

User avatar
m.Th.
XnThusiast
Posts: 1560
Joined: Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:31 am
Contact:

Re: 0.84: Useless menu items "<Rating> (Move to next image)"

Post by m.Th. » Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:59 am

helmut wrote:Thank you for your comments, vertigo and m.Th..

@m.Th.: Do these menu items in Lr or DAMs have shortcuts assigned by default? If yes, THEN it does make sense to list them in the menu because the user sees the function, can use it and even learns how apply this function quickly using the shortcut. (The menu documents the functions and shortcuts available).
Yes - they have. In fact this is the main point. To quickly cull the roll of photos by continuously press 1,1,1,4,2,4,3,5 etc. - it is much quicker than pressing 1,[left arrow],1,[left arrow],2,[left arrow],5,[left arrow],2,[left arrow] ... etc.

The „...and move next” shortcut is a variant of the base shortcut. For example, if the base shortcuts are 1,2,3,4,5 then the „... and move to next” are Shift+1,2,3,4,5. Sometimes is other way round: base shortcut is Ctrl+1,2,3,4,5 and „..and move next” is 1,2,3,4,5.
m. Th.

The Ascetic Experience - The best photos and texts from Holy Mountain (Athos)

- Dark Themed XnViewMP 0.90 64bit & XnView 2.00 x64 on Win7 x64 -

User avatar
helmut
Posts: 8172
Joined: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:47 pm
Location: Frankfurt, Germany

Re: 0.84: Useless menu items "<Rating> (Move to next image)"

Post by helmut » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:24 am

m.Th. wrote:... Yes - they have. In fact this is the main point. ...
Thanks for checking, m.Th.. I assumed that the shortcuts are the main thing.
m.Th. wrote:... The „...and move next” shortcut is a variant of the base shortcut. For example, if the base shortcuts are 1,2,3,4,5 then the „... and move to next” are Shift+1,2,3,4,5. Sometimes is other way round: base shortcut is Ctrl+1,2,3,4,5 and „..and move next” is 1,2,3,4,5.
O.k., I'll have a look at the list of shortcuts and will see whether we can find good shortcuts.

:arrow: Moved to "Suggestions"

Post Reply