just looking into setting up a digital asset management system for a large collection of scanned stills. have used xnview and nconvert for simpler things like batch conversions and such. i love the cross-platform nature of xnview in its various flavors and am curious as to how usable it might be as a tool for managing this archive. several questions:
can i use mp to apply metedata in batches?
can i search an archive by metedata?
can i create collections?
thanks. i guess that's a start.
BabaG
asset management?
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Re: asset management?
...hehehe....BabaG wrote:just looking into setting up a digital asset management system for a large collection of scanned stills. have used xnview and nconvert for simpler things like batch conversions and such. i love the cross-platform nature of xnview in its various flavors and am curious as to how usable it might be as a tool for managing this archive. several questions:
can i use mp to apply metedata in batches?
can i search an archive by metedata?
can i create collections?
thanks. i guess that's a start.
BabaG
Yes, this is the IT moment in which we(*)'re now. 
...and I hope that Pierre will be able to ride the wave. (*) "we" as in 'Photo/Imaging Market' not "we" as in "You and me".
...but let's answer to your questions: (btw, sorry to say - it is metAdata not metEdata... sorry once again
)If you mean ratings/stars, colors and keywords/categories, yes.can i use mp to apply metedata in batches?
You can do it by using mouse and/or shortcuts - also you have a compare window in which you can do your rating and/or coloring.
(Feel free to post here feedback, improvements & RFCs). IMHO, Compare Window is good now, but can be much better.
If you mean IPTC for the formats which supports this (ie. JPG, TIFF), yes.
If you mean to add/edit photo comments, yes.
If you mean on-disk search on a gazillion of EXIF/IPTC tags, then yes. On-disk search is well designed, and relatively fast but, of course, slow compared with an in-DB search which will be near-to-realtime.can i search an archive by metedata?
The in-DB search is cooking here: http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=28345
Feel free to go there and give feedback! We need your input.
If you mean filtering by keywords / ratings (stars) / colors - yes, it supports.
Did I forget something?...
In 0.60, just one: The tagged files.can i create collections?
...but one of the important database redesigns was support for Albums/Collections in 0.56->0.60 release. Now the DB backend is ready (I hope) and in the next release (I hope
) we'll have a GUI for these.See the corresponding discussion here: http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=28322
Don't hesitate to give any feedback you think that it will help us improve the things.
In your opinion, which are the most important things for a DAM which we should implement in the next (sub)release and how do you see them implemented?
m. Th.
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Re: asset management?
hmm. just installed the dmg and it crashes when i try to open after the install.
this is on a:
mac pro 1,1
osx 10.6.8 32bit
does 0.60 require something newer?
<edit>
just noticed that the download seems to be 64 bit only. will this change or am i stuck? i have four macs here, all 32 bit and mp doesn't run on any.
</edit>
here'sthe full crash report:
BabaG
this is on a:
mac pro 1,1
osx 10.6.8 32bit
does 0.60 require something newer?
<edit>
just noticed that the download seems to be 64 bit only. will this change or am i stuck? i have four macs here, all 32 bit and mp doesn't run on any.
</edit>
here'sthe full crash report:
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Process: XnViewMP [231]
Path: /Applications/XnViewMP.app/Contents/MacOS/XnViewMP
Identifier: com.xnview.XnView
Version: 0.60 (0.60)
Code Type: X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [110]
Date/Time: 2013-07-16 14:08:38.890 -0700
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549)
Report Version: 6
Interval Since Last Report: 157686 sec
Crashes Since Last Report: 2
Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 2
Anonymous UUID: 40A8B32F-9E7D-40E5-8C77-DB32D3B21F9D
Exception Type: EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 0
Dyld Error Message:
Symbol not found: _kCFWebServicesProviderDefaultDisplayNameKey
Referenced from: /Applications/XnViewMP.app/Contents/MacOS/../Frameworks/QtWebKit.framework/Versions/4/QtWebKit
Expected in: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation
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Model: MacPro1,1, BootROM MP11.005D.B00, 4 processors, Dual-Core Intel Xeon, 2.66 GHz, 8 GB, SMC 1.7f10
Graphics: ATI Radeon X1900 XT, ATY,RadeonX1900, PCIe, 512 MB
Memory Module: global_name
Bluetooth: Version 2.4.5f3, 2 service, 19 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: Ethernet 1, Ethernet, en0
Network Service: Ethernet 2, Ethernet, en1
PCI Card: ATY,RadeonX1900, sppci_displaycontroller, Slot-1
Serial ATA Device: Maxtor 7Y250M0, 233.76 GB
Serial ATA Device: ST3250820AS P, 232.89 GB
Serial ATA Device: WDC WD20EARX-00PASB0, 1.82 TB
Serial ATA Device: WDC WD20EARX-00PASB0, 1.82 TB
Parallel ATA Device: OPTIARC DVD RW AD-7170A
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8206, 0x5d200000 / 3
USB Device: USB OPTICAL MOUSE, 0x15d9, 0x0a4d, 0x5d100000 / 2
USB Device: USB Keyboard, 0x04d9 (Holtek Semiconductor, Inc.), 0x1503, 0x3d100000 / 2
FireWire Device: built-in_hub, Up to 800 Mb/sec
Re: asset management?
At
http://www.xnview.com/en/xnviewmp/
says 32 & 64 bit. Try once again, be more attentive at unpacking etc. ...but perhaps Pierre forgot to put the 32bit build in the package or so. It happens. He monitors these forums and usually he answers and fix quickly such problems. Unfortunately it seems than he's now in holidays for one-two weeks. Try to contact him directly through email sending him the link to this thread.
http://www.xnview.com/en/xnviewmp/
says 32 & 64 bit. Try once again, be more attentive at unpacking etc. ...but perhaps Pierre forgot to put the 32bit build in the package or so. It happens. He monitors these forums and usually he answers and fix quickly such problems. Unfortunately it seems than he's now in holidays for one-two weeks. Try to contact him directly through email sending him the link to this thread.
BabaG wrote:hmm. just installed the dmg and it crashes when i try to open after the install.
this is on a:
mac pro 1,1
osx 10.6.8 32bit
does 0.60 require something newer?
<edit>
just noticed that the download seems to be 64 bit only. will this change or am i stuck? i have four macs here, all 32 bit and mp doesn't run on any.
</edit>
here'sthe full crash report:BabaGCode: Select all
Process: XnViewMP [231] Path: /Applications/XnViewMP.app/Contents/MacOS/XnViewMP Identifier: com.xnview.XnView Version: 0.60 (0.60) Code Type: X86-64 (Native) Parent Process: launchd [110] Date/Time: 2013-07-16 14:08:38.890 -0700 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.8 (10K549) Report Version: 6 Interval Since Last Report: 157686 sec Crashes Since Last Report: 2 Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 2 Anonymous UUID: 40A8B32F-9E7D-40E5-8C77-DB32D3B21F9D Exception Type: EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP) Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000 Crashed Thread: 0 Dyld Error Message: Symbol not found: _kCFWebServicesProviderDefaultDisplayNameKey Referenced from: /Applications/XnViewMP.app/Contents/MacOS/../Frameworks/QtWebKit.framework/Versions/4/QtWebKit Expected in: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation Binary Images: 0x100000000 - 0x1008f3fff +com.xnview.XnView 0.60 (0.60) <B9FB435C-8925-3A70-9816-551C19447438> /Applications/XnViewMP.app/Contents/MacOS/XnViewMP 0x100c7c000 - 0x102059fe7 +QtWebKit 4.9.3 (compatibility 4.9.0) <60B1050C-5EFD-356F-8335-A4C6425C7B53> /Applications/XnViewMP.app/Contents/Frameworks/QtWebKit.framework/Versions/4/QtWebKit 0x1023f5000 - 0x102438fe7 +phonon 4.4.0 (compatibility 4.4.0) <4C271806-FF81-302B-BD4F-4E13017B4E54> /Applications/XnViewMP.app/Contents/Frameworks/phonon.framework/Versions/4/phonon 0x10244d000 - 0x102de3fff +QtGui 4.8.4 (compatibility 4.8.0) <E04F767C-9302-3411-8D1E-C630B54D19CB> /Applications/XnViewMP.app/Contents/Frameworks/QtGui.framework/Versions/4/QtGui 0x102f42000 - 0x1031e9fff +QtCore 4.8.4 (compatibility 4.8.0) <53D39FCD-EC4E-3542-88C8-FC064F259391> /Applications/XnViewMP.app/Contents/Frameworks/QtCore.framework/Versions/4/QtCore 0x103236000 - 0x103282fff +QtSvg 4.8.4 (compatibility 4.8.0) <1B035EE4-BAAB-3596-8DC7-3F6E410E917B> /Applications/XnViewMP.app/Contents/Frameworks/QtSvg.framework/Versions/4/QtSvg 0x103292000 - 0x1032d5fff +QtXml 4.8.4 (compatibility 4.8.0) <2F0517E1-E2BC-3B54-84F1-93F4DA890B18> /Applications/XnViewMP.app/Contents/Frameworks/QtXml.framework/Versions/4/QtXml 0x1032e2000 - 0x103416fe7 +QtNetwork 4.8.4 (compatibility 4.8.0) <2952DBBE-9B2C-32EB-8CDF-E4D8667887C6> /Applications/XnViewMP.app/Contents/Frameworks/QtNetwork.framework/Versions/4/QtNetwork 0x7fff5fc00000 - 0x7fff5fc3be0f dyld 132.1 (???) <29DECB19-0193-2575-D838-CF743F0400B2> /usr/lib/dyld 0x7fff80003000 - 0x7fff80004fff liblangid.dylib ??? 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m. Th.
- Dark Themed XnViewMP 1.6 64bit on Win11 x64 -
- Dark Themed XnViewMP 1.6 64bit on Win11 x64 -
Re: asset management?
thanks, m.Th.
i actually did try more than once with different downloads: once from the main mp site download link and another time from the link at the top of this forum, though, they may link to the same file. the link on this forum i noticed says only 64 bit. the link on the website says both. windows notes distinct 32 and 64 bit downloads. the mac download is a single one.
on the mac there's not much to the unpacking. if its tar or tgz it just extracts to a single app icon, nothing else. the dmg (disk image) download does pretty much the same. on the mac that's a mountable image that opens with a window and, again, a single app icon with a graphic option to drag the app to the user's applications folder. no indication whether the app is 32 or 64 bit.
i'm wondering if there's something funny going on like you have to hold the 'option' key (alt on pc) while opening the file to get it to open as 32 bit. would be odd but, barring a mistaken omission of the 32 bit version it's all i could think of.
think i'll spare pierre the pestering while he's on vacation. would like to know if it's an oversight, though.
thanks again,
BabaG
i actually did try more than once with different downloads: once from the main mp site download link and another time from the link at the top of this forum, though, they may link to the same file. the link on this forum i noticed says only 64 bit. the link on the website says both. windows notes distinct 32 and 64 bit downloads. the mac download is a single one.
on the mac there's not much to the unpacking. if its tar or tgz it just extracts to a single app icon, nothing else. the dmg (disk image) download does pretty much the same. on the mac that's a mountable image that opens with a window and, again, a single app icon with a graphic option to drag the app to the user's applications folder. no indication whether the app is 32 or 64 bit.
i'm wondering if there's something funny going on like you have to hold the 'option' key (alt on pc) while opening the file to get it to open as 32 bit. would be odd but, barring a mistaken omission of the 32 bit version it's all i could think of.
think i'll spare pierre the pestering while he's on vacation. would like to know if it's an oversight, though.
thanks again,
BabaG
Re: asset management?
Yes, most probably it is an oversight. AFAIK he triggers manually the builds. He develops with the Win 32bit build and when this is close to release then builds and packages for other platforms. For example, I know that Win 64bit counts as a separate platform. OTOH, it could depend on what OS do you have. For ex. CMake has different package for different (older eg. Tiger) Mac OSX variants:BabaG wrote:thanks, m.Th.
i actually did try more than once with different downloads: once from the main mp site download link and another time from the link at the top of this forum, though, they may link to the same file. the link on this forum i noticed says only 64 bit. the link on the website says both. windows notes distinct 32 and 64 bit downloads. the mac download is a single one.
on the mac there's not much to the unpacking. if its tar or tgz it just extracts to a single app icon, nothing else. the dmg (disk image) download does pretty much the same. on the mac that's a mountable image that opens with a window and, again, a single app icon with a graphic option to drag the app to the user's applications folder. no indication whether the app is 32 or 64 bit.
i'm wondering if there's something funny going on like you have to hold the 'option' key (alt on pc) while opening the file to get it to open as 32 bit. would be odd but, barring a mistaken omission of the 32 bit version it's all i could think of.
think i'll spare pierre the pestering while he's on vacation. would like to know if it's an oversight, though.
thanks again,
BabaG
http://www.cmake.org/cmake/resources/software.html
Could you try to download it (it is a small program), install and see what's working for you?
m. Th.
- Dark Themed XnViewMP 1.6 64bit on Win11 x64 -
- Dark Themed XnViewMP 1.6 64bit on Win11 x64 -
Re: asset management?
Known issue, will be fixed in next releaseBabaG wrote:hmm. just installed the dmg and it crashes when i try to open after the install.
Pierre.
Re: asset management?
seems like a big one when an entire platform is excluded! hope the fix is soon.
anxious to try it all. seems like this is a very significant release.
thankyou, pierre,
BabaG
anxious to try it all. seems like this is a very significant release.
thankyou, pierre,
BabaG
Re: asset management?
and just for my own planning purposes, is this expected to be a long or short release cycle?
should i be checking the forum daily or monthly?
thanks,
BabaG
should i be checking the forum daily or monthly?
thanks,
BabaG
Re: asset management?
The 0.61 will be available todayBabaG wrote:and just for my own planning purposes, is this expected to be a long or short release cycle?
should i be checking the forum daily or monthly?
Pierre.