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Wonder if Qt has something like...

Post by adesigninteractive » Sat May 23, 2009 10:01 pm

this goes under the assumption that XnView MP is built with Qt (wait, am i saying that right even? Q? the programming language, common to-- what is it-- KDE? there's an image viewer-- Q-View i think? and etc., found common to many Linux distributions, such as Fedora, where KDE is available...?). Note: please, make no mistake: i really know nothing of Qt, other than that I mentioned previously. as far as programming, little outside of PHP, ColdFusion, XML, Javascript, and your basic WebDev stuffs. i've never even compiled an app from source on win32 (linux, however, yes-- but merely par for the course, i'd say)

anyway-- if all that, i've figured anything of accurate knowledge-- i wonder if there is a Q-lib / widget / something which might take the place of the "Paint" plugin we've known for many XnView versions, past few years? I suppose it would only make sense that the answer must be "yes"-- unless the language is rather universal when it comes to such challenges-- allowing, for example, the use of the current solution, the "Paint" plugin.

XnView "Paint" (1.9x) vs other options:
reason i ask-- and this is just between you and I, okay-- so don't go blabbering gossip around the water-cooler-- hehe :wink: but-- i sometimes use another, similar, albeit-- definitely less-well-rounded (less-valuabe app overall, if i had to choose), for the task of annotating screen-captures, for the results of the latter, i'm afriad, are quite beautiful and rather more robust in that department overall, while the former, to be fair and honest, i must re-evaluate my satisfaction with the 'Paint' plugin from “Wow! this is much better than the previous XnView, "insert text" option!”, when i first discovered "Paint" in newer versions of XnView-- to be now, somewhat shadowed by this other, as to consider "Paint" plugin less "wow!", and more useful, effective utility-- [which i still use on occasion, btw!] which-- i regret, but to be only honest-- can not produce the quality of shapes and text, with the flexibility of the latter, which allows for the illusion depth (ie. quality drop shadows applied to shapes, text w/ or w/out b/g, plus-- some sort of layered blending [so-called "highlighter" shape] -- probably simply "Overlay"-mode color blending), plus tweaks of those tweaks, and yet however minor these may appear on paper, seem as major improvements to such imaging tasks-- all without opening a hard-core editor, 3-min-load-'obe, etc.

commentary...
I beg your pardon, because i know-- perhaps that's the goal. it isn't supposed to be some grand editing component, but effective for some text, arrows, shapes, and lines-- a general, quick notation utility for sketching ideas onto a screen capture (for example), and for that-- it does very well, and i appreciate utilitarian features (for I've developed many a web-app which has zero in the way of so-called web 2-point-oh UI niceties). In fact, for many months near its first availability-- i used the "Paint" plugin quite a lot-- until i fell into finding this other thing.

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Not unlike xnview, it too is publicly available (not open-source) for a no-cost/ no-commercial (good faith) policy, where the app is fully functional. Also likewise [assuming this is still true of XnView], they too offer other imaging products as shareware (typical 30-day trial period, whereafter the user must become licensed, for a nominal fee). One assumes that-- to offer some shareware, or "Pro" versions-- such gracious developers / software companies can get away with so much benevolence in offering a "free" product (like we appreciate, know, and love from XnView) -- where, i suppose we blame kindness, for those offering the absolutely great software in exchange for mere praise, user-affinity and a lifetime of loyalty, (as well as, probably, the challenge to develop a great app!).

Waaayy-off-track here [oops!]
I can't say I have a sense of belonging to "a community family" (the sort we have here at newsgroup.xnview.com), when I think of using, and supporting this newer mention, yet-- I do feel a sense of good will; was fast to consider offering my loyalty to that stone.

It is most easy to be in good conscience as I extend my loyalty here at XnView. As I alluded above-- even though I don't participate often-- i do visit, and keep abreast of news, such that I sense the family existing amongst the users-- even the admins here too are a part of it. From my first participating, or simply reading what others have to say in the XnView community, it was easy to "get-on-board" with everyone. This brings me to speak of a third lightweight, multi-purpose image app, which also offers a variation of a "Paint" plugin.

Regarding “Old Bob
Ugh! that Other-- the 3rd-mention. So, it is 'similarly-priced', and the loyalists of that camp probably tout it as well-known, or the senior contender of freeware imaging soft: (never mind its horribly goofy, 8bit, 30 page app-icon [complete with whacky, unrelated icon-pages, including what might be a busty woman's torso (or a Freudian slip!) . it's decent, it may be 'slim', maybe a bit faster to launch on the ol' IBM 386, and maybe I even have it installed here-- but, there is one more important difference: i feel very little-- rather-- really no encouragement whatsoever, to extend any loyalty there [not to mention, the camp seems lacking in social skill; the dev't, fair-play attitude could benefit from improving-- that is, to coin an old cliche: "if [he] can't say something good about SomexOneview... then he should say nothing at all!"]).

Oh-- I'm way--off-track! THe third-- also employs a paint plugin, but thankfully, we have XnView instead, because that sailor has missed the boat, i believe. Thing is-- it may even boast more options than XnView's current paint plugin (ie. 1.9x, as i haven't seen anything in MP-- yet ::nudge:: ::nudge::), but in the time i've taken to render anything worthy of saving, using their Paint plugin, my time would have in fact been better served, had i launched a full-blown editor for the job-- which is a very precise MISunderstanding, i think, of the purpose for such features being available in a multi-format browser, like XnView and company.

SUMMARY
In summary-- off track, and back, sorry-- what i mean to say, to wish-list if you will: I'm hoping to see the Paint component in XnView MP-- that is, i'm excited to see what XnView MP will offer us in the way of a lightweight annotation plugin, to provide capabilities of inserting text, shapes, etc. For me, if XnView MP must choose between a very slim "paint" option, vs something more robust-- at the sake of a few kilobytes-- please consider offering something that's just a little bit more capable than XnV 1.9x "Paint"-- primarily, if the text capabilities of such an editor can improve-- such that we can create the CR / LF / CRLF pair (platform depending) required for line breaks in annotations-- i'll be just as happy as a rooster in the hen house!

thanks! sorry so much text. best wishes.
(ps. i apologize if the reader finds anything offensive in my commentary. i meant only to do my best at clarifying the context [ i.e. to "get where i'm coming from"])
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Re: Wonder if Qt has something like...

Post by xnview » Mon May 25, 2009 7:37 am

adesigninteractive wrote: In summary-- off track, and back, sorry-- what i mean to say, to wish-list if you will: I'm hoping to see the Paint component in XnView MP-- that is, i'm excited to see what XnView MP will offer us in the way of a lightweight annotation plugin, to provide capabilities of inserting text, shapes, etc.
Yes, the paint plugin will be in xnviewmp
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Re: Wonder if Qt has something like...

Post by adesigninteractive » Mon May 25, 2009 10:49 pm

;-)

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Paint “as is”=0

Post by Clo » Mon May 25, 2009 11:33 pm

:arrow: Pierre

:) Hello !
Yes, the paint plugin will be in xnviewmp
:? If you don't improve the current one which comes with the Win version,
it shall be as so efficient as a cautery on a wooden leg… :(
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Re: Paint “as is”=0

Post by xnview » Tue May 26, 2009 6:28 am

Clo wrote:
Yes, the paint plugin will be in xnviewmp
:? If you don't improve the current one which comes with the Win version,
it shall be as so efficient as a cautery on a wooden leg… :(
it can't be the same, will be integrated to the view mode
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