B1: Too many sub-categories?

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B1: Too many sub-categories?

Post by Dreamer » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:52 am

I think these sub-categories are very confusing, we should remove sub-categories here:

Options > Thumbnail > Appearance / Labels

I suggest this:

Options > Thumbnails
Options > Thumbnail Appearance
Options > Thumbnail Labels

"Thumbnails" and "Thumbnail > Appearance" could be merged to "Thumbnails" (some options could be moved...):

Options > Thumbnails
Options > Thumbnail Labels

What do you think?

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Re: B1: Too many sub-categories?

Post by xnview » Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:21 pm

Dreamer wrote:I think these sub-categories are very confusing, we should remove sub-categories here:

Options > Thumbnail > Appearance / Labels

I suggest this:

Options > Thumbnails
Options > Thumbnail Appearance
Options > Thumbnail Labels

"Thumbnails" and "Thumbnail > Appearance" could be merged to "Thumbnails" (some options could be moved...):

Options > Thumbnails
Options > Thumbnail Labels

What do you think?
'Thumbnail Appearance' is too long for the list of option
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Re: B1: Too many sub-categories?

Post by Dreamer » Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:39 pm

xnview wrote:'Thumbnail Appearance' is too long for the list of option
Therefore my other suggestion above.

If not possible, another name for 'Thumbnail Appearance' should be find, it looks really confusing...

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Post by Clo » Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:04 am

:) Hello !
If not possible, another name for 'Thumbnail Appearance' should be find, it looks really confusing...
- Right, this sounds confusing …

- What about “Size & Style” ?

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Re: B1: Too many sub-categories?

Post by helmut » Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:49 am

Dreamer wrote:I think these sub-categories are very confusing, we should remove sub-categories here:
What is the problem with the sub-categories? The subcategories are opened by default, so you don't even have any extra click.

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Re: B1: Too many sub-categories?

Post by Dreamer » Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:09 pm

helmut wrote:
Dreamer wrote:I think these sub-categories are very confusing, we should remove sub-categories here:
What is the problem with the sub-categories? The subcategories are opened by default, so you don't even have any extra click.
I think they look confusing. Anyway, let other users decide...

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Re: B1: Too many sub-categories?

Post by Olivier_G » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:43 pm

helmut wrote:What is the problem with the sub-categories?
I agree with Dreamer: my little head has too much trouble to keep track with this 3 levels structure... :?
(and I fear it's too late to ask for a 'brain upgrade' from my Dad&Mum... :mrgreen: )

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PS: maybe I should sue them for that... :?:

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Re: B1: Too many sub-categories?

Post by Dreamer » Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:26 am

Olivier_G wrote:
helmut wrote:What is the problem with the sub-categories?
I agree with Dreamer: my little head has too much trouble to keep track with this 3 levels structure... :?
(and I fear it's too late to ask for a 'brain upgrade' from my Dad&Mum... :mrgreen: )
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Re: B1: Too many sub-categories?

Post by xnview » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:24 pm

Olivier_G wrote:
helmut wrote:What is the problem with the sub-categories?
I agree with Dreamer: my little head has too much trouble to keep track with this 3 levels structure... :?
(and I fear it's too late to ask for a 'brain upgrade' from my Dad&Mum... :mrgreen: )

Olivier
PS: maybe I should sue them for that... :?:
But if i use only 2 levels, what is better for these labels?
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Re: B1: Too many sub-categories?

Post by Dreamer » Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:11 pm

xnview wrote:
Olivier_G wrote:
helmut wrote:What is the problem with the sub-categories?
I agree with Dreamer: my little head has too much trouble to keep track with this 3 levels structure... :?
(and I fear it's too late to ask for a 'brain upgrade' from my Dad&Mum... :mrgreen: )

Olivier
PS: maybe I should sue them for that... :?:
But if i use only 2 levels, what is better for these labels?
I think it's too complicated...

Simple is clear, complicated is NOT clear.

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Re: B1: Too many sub-categories?

Post by xnview » Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:40 am

Dreamer wrote:
But if i use only 2 levels, what is better for these labels?
I think it's too complicated...
Simple is clear, complicated is NOT clear.
2 levels is not complicated??? Yes for 3
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Post by Xyzzy » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:09 pm

3 levels are OK for me. I can cope with it :)

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Post by Danny » Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:33 pm

Xyzzy wrote:3 levels are OK for me. I can cope with it :)

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Same here. No biggie.

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Post by Dreamer » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:33 am

Of course, it's not a big problem but...

I think:
2 levels are a bit complicated but OK
3 levels are too complicated for novice users

I have another idea, but not for this version, "show only basic options" option, maybe even enabled by default, advanced options would be disabled then. Just to help novice users.

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Post by Xyzzy » Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:39 am

Dreamer, frankly speaking a novice user should not even display Options window.
I've studied the Options for some time and still I have doubts about what some of them do. Many require good understanding of how XnView works. Help AFAIR does not cover even all basics and is seriuosly outdated. It does not contain descriptions of any Options.

And You see problem that the tree has 3 levels?????? Oh, gimme a break! If you want make XnView more user friendly, volunteer yourself for complete redesign of Options window. Or maybe menu descriptions, or dialog windows options' descriptions? Or....

EDIT: I know- design Novice mode for XnView. What menu items and Options should be hidden, what should be default values for all options, etc. It should keep you busy for, well, some time :twisted:

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