Order of main menu items

[helmut]

The discussion in topic "Screenshot import is partly about the menu's and consistency and made me look at the menus in browser and image view mode.

In browser mode, the order of the main menu items is:
File Edit View Tools Window Info

In Image view mode, it is:
File Edit Image Filter View Tools Window

I think something is wrong in image view mode, since the menus "Image", "Filter", and "Tools" are split by the "View" menu.

I think in Image view mode the order should be either
a.) File Edit Image Filter Tools View Windows
or
b.) File Edit View Image Filter Tools Windows.

From my point of view this would be clearer and more logical. Personally I prefer b.) at the moment, don't exactly know why.

[xnview]

The discussion in topic "Screenshot import is partly about the menu's and consistency and made me look at the menus in browser and image view mode.

In browser mode, the order of the main menu items is:
File Edit View Tools Window Info

In Image view mode, it is:
File Edit Image Filter View Tools Window

I think something is wrong in image view mode, since the menus "Image", "Filter", and "Tools" are split by the "View" menu.

I think in Image view mode the order should be either
a.) File Edit Image Filter Tools View Windows
or
b.) File Edit View Image Filter Tools Windows.

From my point of view this would be clearer and more logical. Personally I prefer b.) at the moment, don't exactly now why.

Does everyone agree with "File Edit View Image Filter Tools Windows"?

[Lesmo16]

I think in Image view mode the order should be either
a.) File Edit Image Filter Tools View Windows
or
b.) File Edit View Image Filter Tools Windows.

From my point of view this would be clearer and more logical. Personally I prefer b.) at the moment, don't exactly now why.

Does everyone agree with "File Edit View Image Filter Tools Windows"?

Yes, I also support b.)

[Dreamer]

I think in Image view mode the order should be either
a.) File Edit Image Filter Tools View Windows
or
b.) File Edit View Image Filter Tools Windows.

From my point of view this would be clearer and more logical. Personally I prefer b.) at the moment, don't exactly now why.

Does everyone agree with "File Edit View Image Filter Tools Windows"?

Yes, I also support b.)

Me too.

Maybe also "Info" could be renamed "Help", as in other programs...

[helmut]

...
Maybe also "Info" could be renamed "Help", as in other programs...

I support this.

[Clo]

Hi All !

a.) File Edit Image Filter Tools View Window

• This layout sounds more logical IMHO…

…Maybe also "Info" could be renamed "Help", as in other programs…

• Absolutely, I support too.

{ Note : The order of the menus could be changed / customized easily whether we'ld had text language files… It's possible to get all menus in a single file.
- Then, no problem to change the layout, only a Cut >> Paste >> Save handle… }

KR
Claude
Clo

[Lesmo16]

The order of the menus could be changed / customized easily whether we'ld had text language files… It's possible to get all menus in a single file.
- Then, no problem to change the layout, only a Cut >> Paste >> Save handle…

Claude, that's too important to write it that small - so I felt free to remove the formatting.

And it's absolutely ON topic!

Support++

[helmut]

The order of the menus could be changed / customized easily whether we'ld had text language files… It's possible to get all menus in a single file.
- Then, no problem to change the layout, only a Cut >> Paste >> Save handle…

Claude, that's too important to write it that small - so I felt free to remove the formatting.

And it's absolutely ON topic!

Support++

I think a more flexible toolbar with more buttons is most important. Restructurable menus would be a pretty sophisticated thing and mainly for advanced users. I think we should focus on the basic things needed in XnView - there is still lots of them...

[Clo]

• Hi !

- I express an opinion about the topic you have launched.

…I think a more flexible toolbar with more buttons is most important. …

- It is, like I highlighted as an example here, but this' another -important- subject; weird to see so few feedback…

Restructurable menus would be a pretty sophisticated thing and mainly for advanced users.

  Are you joking ?
- Not at all with text-files, just give a glance in those of Total Commander, for instance… No more complicated than that I told above, an edit-change a text file !
Even Aunt Agatha knows to do ! I bet that Lesmo 16 could confirm as a TC-user

G.
Claude
Clo

[ouistiti]

As a TC and xnView user I approve Clo's opinion...

Paul

[Dreamer]

As a TC and xnView user I approve Clo's opinion...

Paul

As a SS (*) and XnView user I agree with Helmut.

* - Servant Salamander - file manager

[JohnFredC]

My observation is that in most mainstream Windows apps the main menu sequence is usually

File Edit View ... Tools Windows Help

With app-specific menus substituted for the ellipsis (...).

Woah now, yes that's a big generalization, but I have found that my motor memory tends to look for (er, uh, mouse for) menus in that sequence.

[helmut]

- I express an opinion about the topic you have launched.

…I think a more flexible toolbar with more buttons is most important. …

- It is, like I highlighted as an example
here, but this' another -important- subject; weird to see so few feedback…

Good so we basically agree. But a toolbar is for quick access and should be configurable, whereas the menus and menu items should remain something unchangeable, I think.

Restructurable menus would be a pretty sophisticated thing and mainly for advanced users.

  Are you joking ?
- Not at all with text-files, just give a glance in those of Total Commander, for instance… No more complicated than that I told above, an edit-change a text file !
Even Aunt Agatha knows to do ! I bet that Lesmo 16 could confirm as a TC-user

When discussing things I rarely write jokes. Perhaps it would be not too hard to implement, I don't know and even don't care too much. But I think it's for sophisticated and advanced usage, only. I always try thinking in terms "Most benefit for most users" and I just think that restructurable menus are for few people only and therefore not so important.